hi,
ok, after having a nice chat with you guys I have to apologise for causing that trouble. You´re right on your ID: It is T. parietina.
I failed, especially on noticing the elongated cymbium visible at picture number 1.
hi,
sorry, mentioning M. ferruginea refered to the picture posted later (not in the initial post of this topic), but taking a look at the first page now reveals that this picture is not available anymore.
For ID (keying out) species take a look at this: http://www.araneae.unibe.ch/Bestimmung/eng...el_eng_Ganz.htm
hi,
sorry, I don´t speak italian, so I probably understand only half of what you guys are writing.
First: Most species you mentioned have been transferred to Malthonica.
The first specimen is Tegenaria, most likely Tegenaria atrica (pattern on carapace and opithosoma). The second specimen looks like Malthonica ferruginea.
Cheers,
Bastian